tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737853305204847838.post7410658964774670078..comments2023-11-20T05:27:02.037+00:00Comments on GrogNews: Sound Off! TECHINT or HUMINT?Branthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07482746543829626805noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737853305204847838.post-1958209597758895232011-11-30T22:48:46.437+00:002011-11-30T22:48:46.437+00:00Brant, I did not mean to sound dismissive of your ...Brant, I did not mean to sound dismissive of your Sound Off column; again, it's the discussion of the (non-exclusive) alternatives that's the important part.Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737853305204847838.post-48740368562786081082011-11-30T21:24:24.099+00:002011-11-30T21:24:24.099+00:00Brian is right that a lot of these can be seen as...Brian is right that a lot of these can be seen as false dichotomies. But he's also right that the point is to generate discussion rather than set any sort of absolute rule. As a former BN/BDE S2, there's no way I'd ever limit the tools available to me. But I was very, very fond of my HUMINT guys, because they could give a lot of on-the-ground context that the tech systems never could.<br /><br />Even a scout on the hill can give me a better headcount of type/quantity/quality of a mass of vehicles than a UAV overflight. Is that a big assembly area of a task-org'ed unit, or a UMPC of broken ash-and-trash that looks big in aggregate on film, but not so impressive to a scout with bino's?Branthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07482746543829626805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737853305204847838.post-58378318956511720502011-11-30T18:24:50.685+00:002011-11-30T18:24:50.685+00:00You're right, Brian. All forms of intel serve ...You're right, Brian. All forms of intel serve to corroborate each other. I think the biggest intel failures I've experienced were when a single source was relied upon too heavily.Matt Purvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03538705471147112027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737853305204847838.post-20434615053002026142011-11-30T18:17:16.459+00:002011-11-30T18:17:16.459+00:00Matt, I am not saying TECHINT is not necessary - a...Matt, I am not saying TECHINT is not necessary - as you point out, both forms of intelligence are, for different reasons. <br /><br />Brant sets up a lot of false dichotomies in these "Sound Offs!"; the answer is almost always, "it depends." But then again, it's the discussion the topic provokes that's the important part.Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737853305204847838.post-69616105248494162472011-11-30T03:16:27.544+00:002011-11-30T03:16:27.544+00:00Oh, i've seen SIGINT provide plenty of actiona...Oh, i've seen SIGINT provide plenty of actionable intelligence. Many times in Afghanistan and Iraq, missions hinged soley on SIGINT.Matt Purvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03538705471147112027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737853305204847838.post-55520916860855215342011-11-30T02:59:14.029+00:002011-11-30T02:59:14.029+00:00HUMINT is harder, but gets you better answers abou...HUMINT is harder, but gets you better answers about specific things<br /><br />TECHINT gets you big picture trends but isn't likely to give you actionable detailsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737853305204847838.post-16627313100776846732011-11-29T23:45:46.782+00:002011-11-29T23:45:46.782+00:00Oh, those HUMINTers are a bunch of wankers that al...Oh, those HUMINTers are a bunch of wankers that all think they are James Bond incarnate. ;)<br /><br />I'm biased, but TECHINT is where it is at. People lie, massive troves of data can't defy statistical analysis. <br /><br />In the end, the right answer is both are necessary. Well trained and experienced eyes and ears on the ground are necessary to confirm all the intel gathered from afar by more technological means. <br /><br />Good question.Matt Purvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03538705471147112027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737853305204847838.post-53326041662265101032011-11-29T22:03:46.809+00:002011-11-29T22:03:46.809+00:00HUMINT, for choice.
Here's why:
http://www.s...HUMINT, for choice. <br /><br />Here's why:<br />http://www.smartwar.org/2011/11/rolling-up-a-spy-network-the-cia-vs-hezbollah-in-lebanon/Briannoreply@blogger.com